Techno C. Procyon ([info]robocoon) wrote,
@ 2008-04-14 21:23:00
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the future of Techno / Kay Fedawa
Abruptly written because I'm upset. Sorry.

EDIT-- I NEVER SAID SHE WAS RIPPING ME OFF. I DON'T THINK SHE IS. I KNOW THAT THIS CHARACTER WAS NOT INSPIRED BY TECHNO. READ MY LETTERS TO HER, FOR GOD'S SAKE, I SAID IT FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THAT I DON'T THINK SHE STOLE !!!ANYTHING!!! AND THAT I KNOW SHE MADE IT UP HERSELF. RELAX. --EDIT

This has been a point of hot debate and much discussion among my RL friends for the past couple of months. I've finally reached a descision...

Now that there is a new neon fuchsia and white with black stripes furry spreading themselves around the internet, I feel that it is time to relinquish my name as the character I've been playing since 2000: Techno. Obviously Techno's presence as an interesting, unique character was less significant than I thought, as there is now a character almost identical to her tryping to make a name for itself in the fandom, known as "Kiki", created by the infamous Swiftkill/Kay Fedawa. In light of the confusion and upset regarding this character's similarities to my long-standing personal avatar, and Swiftkill's resistance to make any significant change, I am dropping use of my "fursona" Techno Procyon until further notice.

As of now I will be going by a generic version of my standard username (which, although inspired by Techno, does not neccessarily refer to her) -- Robocoon. Henceforth I will only be known by this name, because I get far too upset seeing Techno and knowing that there is another character indistinguishable from her.

My other alternate secondary characters still exist (except Sigmund, as he is retired alongside Techno since they are a pair) and may be used in place of a "fursona", now, since I lack one that is defined as well as Techno was. Just as a refresher, those characters that can be used as an avatar in lieu of Techno are Profett, the jackalraptor cyborg, Pocoa, the collie+common dolphin slavebot, and my non-fursonas/pokemon comic characters Tindalos the houndoom and Quetzcoatl the xatu.

For further reading regarding why this happened, please see the following page: http://robocoon.net/tech/kiki.html

no, it's not a late april fools. Sorry folks.

After more months of minute tweaks to my character and talking with Kay, we've pretty much come to terms with each other. If anything else comes up regarding this character, I'll make a note of it, but as of now, she and I are on "pleasant speaking" terms and are going to be able to mutually coexist.

I left this post public just for history reasons. It will probably eventually get friends-locked with the rest of my posts.


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[info]invaderluca
2008-04-15 02:39 am UTC (link)
It'll be hard to adjust, I'll always know you as Techno. Much more awesome name in my opinion.

Fuck Swiftkill if s/he's gonna be pissy about it. That doesn't mean you hafta give up your name... but that's just my thoughts.

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[info]robocoon
2008-04-15 04:07 am UTC (link)
it's not necessary to be angry/etc at her, she didn't do anything wrong.

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(no subject) - [info]invaderluca, 2008-04-15 05:51 am UTC (Expand)

[info]anodyne_geno
2008-04-15 02:44 am UTC (link)
Gah, it's completely ridiculous that she refuses to see the similarities, or make even a slight change. I wish you didn't have to give up your name. I'll think your awesome no matter what, rest assured, but I will certainly miss Techno.

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[info]dalailamafarma
2008-04-15 02:46 am UTC (link)
"For some reason I thought you were a guy, and I'm kindof rude to guys online. If I knew that I'd met you at AC and that you were female, as stupid as that sounds, I wouldn't have blown you off like that. "

what a bitch.

shut 'er down!

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[info]zoom_gas
2008-04-15 02:49 am UTC (link)
lol thats my favorite part too
what the fuck

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[info]plushlover
2008-04-15 02:47 am UTC (link)
That's a real shame, kiddo. I know that must hurt. I 'killed off' my original fursona, too, and it took the better part of two years to finally get the anguish out of my system. I hope your transition involves less suffering than mine... *hugs*

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(no subject) - [info]robocoon, 2008-04-15 04:10 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]nerdlover
2008-04-15 03:09 am UTC (link)
*prepares to be mauled*

Honestly Im trying to see where the problem is she offered to change the color for a furry artist she was being ridiculously nice, I've seen people turn into rabid dogs over much much less. And to me her Kiki looks nothing like Techno and the style of the stripes is enough for it to not even register in my brain as hey that might be Techno. And also the purple(pink?) doesnt look right. Also she lacks the black eye spots and has green eyes as opposed to yours that have yellow sclera and orangeish iris and where heres are true zebra stripes yours are raccoon... heck I thought you were a coon. I thought thats why you were technocoon.

Maybe it will help your case more if you display any messages you sent to her after the initial one and this rant shes talking about.

And before I get marked as Kay Fedewa fan Im not I really really dislike her art and think she gets waaay too much credit for it.

Listen i think you're a really fun person and I love your entries but i think you may be overreacting just a little. Dont let yourself get dragged into the furry grouping of people who take any similarity as copy.

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(no subject) - [info]grrrowly, 2008-04-15 03:11 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]luindilwen
2008-04-15 03:20 am UTC (link)
Wow. I'm sorry, man.

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[info]squnq
2008-04-15 03:20 am UTC (link)
See, being a total asshole has some advantages.

Nobody wants to rip my fursona off. :]

Otherwise, I agree with what's said above - why bend to someone else over similarity? Yeah they have the same color and stripes, but they're not Techno, they're just some faggot gay pink fox with stripes. There's a pretty huge difference, surface similarity is where it ends long before subterranean complexity.

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[info]raskhusky
2008-04-15 03:29 am UTC (link)
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
You were there first.
You are you.
End of file.

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[info]fiztheancient
2008-04-15 03:36 am UTC (link)
this is a little silly.

i dont think you should retire your character because someone has a sparkledog character that has similar colors

theres a sparkledog character out there that has similar colors to fiz

it could be a coincidence, it could be ripping, who knows. but i wouldnt throw in the towel, thats letting her win if she is ripping you off.

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(no subject) - [info]robocoon, 2008-04-15 04:13 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]kassichu
2008-04-15 03:43 am UTC (link)
i am looking side by side at them right now and i cannot see any resemblance other than coloring a dog pink and putting black stripes on it.

you weren't the first person to think of such a thing and you won't be the last.

stop being a jackass to this poor girl and get over it.

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(no subject) - [info]robocoon, 2008-04-15 03:49 am UTC (Expand)
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[info]fieryphoenix
2008-04-15 03:49 am UTC (link)
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

A character somewhat similar to yours comes along, and when its owner refuses to change it enough for you, you abandon everything? If that's what you really feel needs to be done then so be it, but it just... doesn't make sense. At all.

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[info]vulpeschild
2008-04-15 03:57 am UTC (link)
Thats a damn shame. I really liked Techno :c

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[info]eagle_bird
2008-04-15 03:58 am UTC (link)
FUCK YOU KIKI IMMA EAT YOUR EYEBALLS

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[info]iankeith
2008-04-15 04:49 am UTC (link)
:| Just because someone else has created a character like yours doesn't mean you have to change, robit. I've seen plenty of other three-tailed foxes, but I'm still Ian. You don't have to change just because someone else is trying to be like you.

But, if it's your decision, then all right. Won't stop me from still calling you and thinking of you as Techno.

That's right, you're still Techno to me.

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[info]august9th
2008-04-15 07:38 am UTC (link)
I'muh gonna stick my nose in here cause I want to.
I do agree with you, I can see you're not screaming and hollering that she's ripping you off, it just makes you feel uncomfortable with the fact that, and as some have stated, she's veryveryvery popular, and she's made this character, and everyone loves it, where as you're no different, and there's nothing to show for that because you're not as popular (I don't mean that in a horrid way).

I feel stupid when I feel a tad iffy when I see people with blue skin. Its just a colour, I don't own it, but I can't help being all eek about it. Even styles sometimes, but thats the way it goes. Everyone tries to be original and nine times out of ten, there's someone out there who came up with the exact same thing X(

Anyway, I know you don't like me all that much but, I thought i'd show some support anyway. I hope things get sorted.

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[info]sciucaro
2008-04-15 02:25 pm UTC (link)
Is this the one you are talking about?

I can still plant a difference between the two. That one's feral and all Disney-looking, and yours is the psychobot we all know and love. Even the drawing styles separates the two. Look at it that way.

Don't worry about it. Keep your pride. It's just more Internet fury biting at you.

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[info]centrifuge_xeno
2008-04-15 02:32 pm UTC (link)
More or less exact same situation I'm currently in. I mean, almost exact same. I have a person which has ripped off my wasp persona recently, right here, copies my color choices and everything. And the worst part is, like with you, Nekogami is mega-popular so now every jackass under the sun is now thinking I'm ripping that guy off when it was the other way around.

I'm not going to change myself or even behave any differently though. If some jerk wants to rip me off it doesnt change who I am at all...

I know the fandom has a hardon for copy-cats and having something original never really lasts long, so... This is what furries do :p

I'm not changing myself. You shouldn't either.

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this guy deleted his comments to you like a pansy - [info]robocoon, 2008-07-12 08:40 am UTC (Expand)

[info]ziggy_san
2008-04-15 03:01 pm UTC (link)
I've apparently known OF you online for like...ever. Only recently have I gotten to know you better and know your character, which I always enjoyed because of the colors and stylistic whatevers.

I can understand what it means to accumulate a bunch of art of your character. Maybe this isn't about recognition but a sense of identity.

The point is that you are the real deal and this other thing is just an off-creation that happens to have a strikingly similar color scheme. Robocoon/Techno has far more recognition in my eyes than this other character has since I have never even heard of them :|

If she is willing to tweak her character a little, then great. Even if you wanted to do a non-major tweak to yours that would work. I'd hate to see you retire this character because I has sort of enjoyed seeing it.

This isn't me getting all mushy over a character on the internet, mind you, but I don't think you should just stop using it cause of this.

When Zer had a bunch of people make lemur-like characters like her's did she stop drawing herself or others in that same style? Fuck no :D (okay maybe that was a bad example)

But I don't think you should give up on this so easily I guess is what I am TRYING to say in rambling on like this.

tl;dr version: shut up, you're awesome, don't change a thing :|

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[info]succendo
2008-04-15 03:16 pm UTC (link)
:( I'll always know you as Techno (or your real name, whatev). But I'll respect your decision to change characters. I personally think you should stay with Techno or Siggy, but if it makes you that uncomfortable, I can see how you don't want to.

I'll probably still call you Techno or Robocoon anyways out of force 0of habit XD

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[info]kittencuffs
2008-04-15 05:44 pm UTC (link)
I went looking for her character, and if I found what I was supposed to find, I really don't see much reason for giving up your identity. I mean, yeah, your colors and patterns are shockingly similar (I know you're adamant that that's a coincidence, but I have to say it's a pretty damn weird one), but you've got completely different styles. Her character seems to be decidedly more dog-like, where Techno is (was?) definitely a collie-fox. I mean, when we very first met, and I saw the first picture of Techno, before you explained anything at all about her profile, I *knew* I was looking at a combination of a fox and fluffy dog, and you filled in the rough-coated collie bit a while later. Techno wears glasses, her character doesn't. Techno has awesome yellow eyes, her character's are generic. Techno is tweeked out, her character is (again) generic. And, most importantly, Techno is robo, and her character isn't.

You've had Techno for eight years now, and she'll probably move on in a month or two to something else. Send her pictures of Flutterponies as encouragement.

But if you insist, I'll try to watch my tongue and not call you Tech anymore. :[

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[info]duraji_synth
2008-04-15 08:56 pm UTC (link)
I agree with the majority, this is rather extreme to eliminate your avatar just because she looks a lot like another character out of sheer coincidence. I honestly don't see why there can't be two characters (especially when one is anthro and the other is feral, and they aren't even the same SPECIES or even created of the same nature and probably have entirely different background stories) that look somewhat similar in the fandom. Seriously, there's not a lot in the way of truly unique characters anymore as far as physical appearances go, so the differences must be made up in how they carry themselves and how they behave.

There are plenty of characters that look like my main avatars, but they don't get confused with my characters because they have entirely different personalities. There's no reason for me to go and tell other people to make sure that they change their character's appearances, and I haven't killed off my characters, either (well, I sorta killed Lurdanjo, but he's back, just not my primary character anymore ^^;).

Your character is an ANDROID for crying out loud! Isn't that, alone, quite a huge difference that can be represented even in the most basic images and stories? :D Or are you saying that you don't think that being a lifelike robot thingie is an interesting, unique character?

Anyway, good luck with whatever you decide. If you wanna chat about this one-on-one anytime soon, let me know.

Edited at 2008-04-15 09:04 pm UTC

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[info]magnatum
2008-04-15 10:15 pm UTC (link)
...I don't understand the logic here. The thing's feral first off and...man...just, really?
I'm sorry, but I think you're over exaggerating, and you sort of started the whole problem by noting her :/ about it. It was pretty rude to ask her to changer her character when she obviously wasn't copying you. I still think you're rad and all, but you're making a big deal over nothing.

How many human character do you see that look a like? Really now.

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[info]lethalobjection
2008-04-18 12:20 am UTC (link)
I know we used to be pretty close, but we've fallen out of touch and people change so we might not be the same when we knew each other in high school. I don't want to say a lot and piss you off because I don't know if I still know you well enough, but I just thought I'd put my two cents in. I get the situation, and I can't blame you for anything. Remember in high school when I was going through the whole Spoony/Carolyn/Squeaky thing? I'm still trying to figure myself out, but it's something I've got to do myself. I know Techno means a lot to you, but don't let people give you shit for not keeping that "fursona". If you wanna keep Techno around, great. If you don't, that's great too. It's totally up to you. Hell, I still call you Speck when I tell Raina about you. I remember when we first met in the Burkett library and you had a pop bottle with salemanders in it. You were awesome then, and you will always be awesome. No matter what name you go by, you're YOU. Don't forget that.

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